tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post7485481210330289866..comments2024-03-18T03:10:30.572-07:00Comments on NwAvGuy: Sansa Clip+ MeasuredNwAvGuyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00309644608738074125noreply@blogger.comBlogger108125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-22563171013541161652012-08-21T07:42:43.312-07:002012-08-21T07:42:43.312-07:00how is clip different from clip+?
how is clip different from clip+?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-57864133447263854452012-06-01T17:33:44.932-07:002012-06-01T17:33:44.932-07:00Some claim the 4G has a lower headphone output imp...Some claim the 4G has a lower headphone output impedance than the 3G. I've seen inconsistent numbers so I don't know if Apple made a running change, or I've also heard the 8 GB 4G uses an entirely difference circuit board than the larger models. A lower impedance could help the sound with many headphones but otherwise I think they're both relatively transparent.<br /><br />If you NwAvGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309644608738074125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-2648640723593704662012-06-01T02:26:10.693-07:002012-06-01T02:26:10.693-07:00I've got a Clip and an iPod Touch 3G and they ...I've got a Clip and an iPod Touch 3G and they are fine.<br />But what about the iPod Touch 4G? <br />Is there any improvement in sound quality from the 3G?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-49128069626463337482012-05-14T05:19:04.811-07:002012-05-14T05:19:04.811-07:00excellent not that i hat ipod for being so expensi...excellent not that i hat ipod for being so expensive.<br />the in depth testing is AWESOME and i do mean AWESOME. regards to some owners griping about failing sansa's if you buy it legit go replace it. but this is THE portable mp3 player we are looking for. yes buy a couple or more for the price of a ipod because yes this is the mp3 we can use and abuse. not that its bad but it is awesome Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-1118654813134010172012-05-10T18:37:39.571-07:002012-05-10T18:37:39.571-07:00I have a Zip to test but haven't yet. Supposed...I have a Zip to test but haven't yet. Supposedly it uses the same main chip as the old plus and performs very similarly. The main benefit is the nicer display.NwAvGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309644608738074125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-14930181230250369282012-05-10T17:52:33.181-07:002012-05-10T17:52:33.181-07:00thx for the in-depth article.
My Clip+ failed, in...thx for the in-depth article.<br /><br />My Clip+ failed, in that a non-Sandisk cheapo headphones I used, the headphone's end piece broke off in the Clip+'s 3.5mm jack. much to my surprise BestBuy let me exchange it, but they only retail store physically stocked the ClipZip, so I paid the net $4 diff & now have the ClipZip.<br /><br />any feedback on the ClipZip? soundwise I can'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-56775188593646019952012-05-09T18:43:45.464-07:002012-05-09T18:43:45.464-07:00Ignoring the output impedance my iPod Touch 3G mea...Ignoring the output impedance my iPod Touch 3G measures better than the Clip+ in most ways. Output impedance is important, however. If you use the iPod with a good headphone amp the combination outperforms the Clip+. If the difference is audible will likely depend on the headphones used, quality of the music played, etc. But the Clip+ is already approaching the point of diminishing returns.NwAvGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309644608738074125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-24536701305257608962012-05-09T03:19:20.492-07:002012-05-09T03:19:20.492-07:00Hello NwAvGuy, just wanted to say thanks for takin...Hello NwAvGuy, just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to do a thorough review of the Clip+. As a big believer in The Audio Critic style of writing (as, I'm sure, you are) this sort of comprehensive, measured writing is all too rare nowadays. <br /><br />So I bought the Clip+ blind based on your review. Not hard, I know, considering the price. I just have one question, however. You say,luckystrikerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15479843282965711167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-6908146824661913042012-04-17T07:04:09.419-07:002012-04-17T07:04:09.419-07:00I have installed rockbox and have 3.11 on I believ...I have installed rockbox and have 3.11 on I believe and there is a car stereo\usb function I think, but it did not fix the issue. The stereo is only a year old and can read USB and ipod stuff, so I am wondering why it still cannot read the external memory. Is there an option that I am missing. Rockbox is pretty cool otherwise.Owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02816122662557336356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-27011012396520482332012-04-12T14:17:27.103-07:002012-04-12T14:17:27.103-07:00The headphone jacks on the clip Plus is the weak p...The headphone jacks on the clip Plus is the weak point. same for the zip. I've had to solder mine quite a few times.<br /><br />Any new info on the zip vs Plus nwavguy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-57916488087737628502012-04-08T21:47:48.976-07:002012-04-08T21:47:48.976-07:00My Clip+, which is well over a year old, is still ...My Clip+, which is well over a year old, is still working great. And it's been used A LOT and I've been less than kind to it at times. I've snagged the headphone cord on gym equipment and it's been ripped from my shirt and flung onto hard surfaces. It gets stuffed into linty pockets and sweaty gym bags, sat on during airline flights, etc. I've worked outside in the sun on 85 NwAvGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309644608738074125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-25938487039399601832012-04-08T21:19:12.568-07:002012-04-08T21:19:12.568-07:00Hello, NwAvGuy - I'm about to buy a Clip+ to u...Hello, NwAvGuy - I'm about to buy a Clip+ to use with my Shure SRH840 headphones, which have a stated impedance of 44 ohms. I know essentially nothing about audio, but based on your review I was at least feeling reassured that the Clip+ could drive my headphones effectively. Then I noticed Stephan's comment:<br /><br />"While SRH840s are not hard to drive . . . they have a bit of a bcarr1122https://www.blogger.com/profile/09488635500516319743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-51787117374326587902012-04-01T00:13:26.436-07:002012-04-01T00:13:26.436-07:00The current development build of rockbox (and upco...The current development build of rockbox (and upcoming 3.11) will allow you to decide which storage device is visible over MSC for stereos that cannot handle internal/external at the same time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-45401644417032471722012-03-28T11:15:02.461-07:002012-03-28T11:15:02.461-07:00The AKG K/Q 701 is a difficult headphone to drive ...The AKG K/Q 701 is a difficult headphone to drive properly and even the HD650 is right at the edge of what a lot of amps/DACs can handle (see my More Power article). Because of that I don't know of any headphone DACs available now I can personally suggest in that price range. The FiiO E9 won't work well with the AKGs and the rest of the FiiO amps/DACs don't have enough output.<br /><NwAvGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309644608738074125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-60673930395468578852012-03-28T05:44:18.575-07:002012-03-28T05:44:18.575-07:00I will try it out again and see. One thing I would...I will try it out again and see. One thing I would be interested in seeing if when using Rockbox, would it allow my car stereo to see the music on the SD card? Right now, if I connect it to my car's usb port, only the music on the internal memory can be played. I will have to try rockbox today to see if that helps.Owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02816122662557336356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-80757635291100746622012-03-28T03:39:02.637-07:002012-03-28T03:39:02.637-07:00I get it now. Thank you for answering :)
So will ...I get it now. Thank you for answering :)<br /><br />So will I notice any difference(or improvement) in sound quality if I use AKG K450 and Klipsch S4 with 4G?<br /><br />Also can you please suggest a decent desktop DAC/Amp for AKG 701 and HD650 for around $300?Upendranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-27911557885129398582012-03-27T14:23:52.594-07:002012-03-27T14:23:52.594-07:00Rockbox does help (mostly) fix the pitch error if ...Rockbox does help (mostly) fix the pitch error if that might somehow bother you. But otherwise it's mostly about features, skins, etc. One of those features, however, is better EQ. So that could certainly alter the sound if you use it. But with both set to "flat" I doubt you would notice any difference. It's worth noting you can run both at once. You just hold down the home NwAvGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309644608738074125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-49296268736718931482012-03-27T14:21:28.063-07:002012-03-27T14:21:28.063-07:00No, damping and sensitivity are not related. Somed...No, damping and sensitivity are not related. Someday I might test a 4G but I've been waiting for the 5G (which according to some rumors is overdue). I don't think you'll be able to buy a 4G much longer.<br /><br />From what I understand the 4G measures very similarly to the 3G. There's some confusion about the output impedance of the 4G. Some tests show it around the same 7 ohms NwAvGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309644608738074125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-9009642150947991082012-03-27T07:09:27.403-07:002012-03-27T07:09:27.403-07:00I have both the Ipod 64g 3g and the Clip+ 4gig(exp...I have both the Ipod 64g 3g and the Clip+ 4gig(expanded to 20gigs with SD card). Anyway, I tried Rockbox last year and have since removed it. Do you think that it really adds anything to the player sound wise in a positive way. I really don't care about different skins or playing Doom. I use Ultimate Ears Triple Fi. 10's and Etymotic Hf3 headphones and was wondering if the sound quality Owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02816122662557336356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-34096305746506002232012-03-27T02:55:25.546-07:002012-03-27T02:55:25.546-07:00Hi,
Nice blog, very informative!
I would like to ...Hi,<br />Nice blog, very informative! <br />I would like to know if you've tested iPod Touch 4G yet(I want to know if its better or equal to Clip+, output impedance, etc.)? <br />Also is headphone's damping and its sensitivity related?Upendranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-54370518800975872242012-03-20T20:47:20.492-07:002012-03-20T20:47:20.492-07:00Thanks for getting back to me about this. I suspec...Thanks for getting back to me about this. I suspected as much and while I do see the advantage of having a small dedicated player, I already have a 3GS & Fiio E6 (wrote E5 by mistake in my earlier post). <br /><br />So unless the Sansa is going to be an upgrade I will probably stick with what i've got.<br /><br />Thanks once again!Cierannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-36263375489869895622012-03-20T19:37:12.399-07:002012-03-20T19:37:12.399-07:00The Clip+ is certainly more convenient than an iPh...The Clip+ is certainly more convenient than an iPhone+E5 but if the 3GS performs similarly to the 3G iPod Touch I don't think you'll hear much difference.NwAvGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309644608738074125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-18899224329337012252012-03-20T19:06:31.659-07:002012-03-20T19:06:31.659-07:00Excellent review - really informative.
I currentl...Excellent review - really informative.<br /><br />I currently have an iPhone 3GS which I use with a Fiio E5 for music, but I am curious if the Sansa Clip+ on it's own will outperfrom this combination?<br /><br />Any help would be really appreciated. ThanksCierannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-85367538751836840462012-02-28T16:43:15.626-08:002012-02-28T16:43:15.626-08:00Excellent writing! I'm glad that you didn'...Excellent writing! I'm glad that you didn't hurt animals in the testing.Luísnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6890046273025265768.post-48115941569246199442012-02-22T17:07:49.718-08:002012-02-22T17:07:49.718-08:00Yes it really does about nearly 0.5 Vrms into any ...Yes it really does about nearly 0.5 Vrms into any load 16 ohms or higher. You might have messed up your math. Check out More Power if you haven't already.NwAvGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309644608738074125noreply@blogger.com